So, you tell me alcohol is essential and then you go and ruin it...
First piece on nutrition I ever got through, though. Needs editing.
I'm x-country skiing 3 miles a day but I've gained ten lbs of fat this winter. My mom has a sweet tooth and likes to bake brownies. Basically a variety of proteins and lots of fruit and veggies?
What do you make of Jordan Peterson eating only meat?
I never said it was essential, I just said it could be a heck of a lot of fun! To recap protein and fat are the essential macros while carbs and alcohol are not.
The fact that it is the first nutrition article you've gotten through is high praise given the crazy length! This is just a 1st draft and I've already edited some based on other feedback. It'll be an ongoing process.
x-country skiing is a great cardio workout, but why not gradually increase your mileage to burn more calories and progressively improve your fitness? Could help with the extra 10lbs. Also, if you're not doing any resistance training maybe do a couple sets of push ups, rows, and/or lunges for 10-20min every other day. Having brownies and other sweets around the house is brutal, some people can resist that type of temptation, I'm not one of those people. If it is anywhere in the house I will find it and consume it.
Lean proteins and fruits and veggies is generally a good foundation for a hypocaloric diet, but the calories are what matters. Some fruits and vegetables are lower in calorie density than others. Just look them up until you get a sense for whats what. Lean protein is key if you're trying to get into a deficit because fatty cuts often have twice as many calories per oz. Even lean protein is also calorie dense, so keep track of that. I used to like to have about a pound of meat with each of my meals, if you do the math that is a lot of calories, not conducive to getting into a big deficit.
I tried to shoehorn in my take on carnivore into the article, basically I look at it as an extreme elimination diet. JP has some sort of autoimmune issue or other food sensitivity such that carnivore is about all he can tolerated. I have another friend like that who has narcolepsy that is a lot more manageable if he sticks to a carnivore diet. It happens, but if you don't have issues like that, it probably isn't worth the effort. Also, if you're eating a carnivore diet but still having a calorie surplus it won't do you any good. Your blood work will look like shit just like if you're eating a typical American hypercaloric diet. No magic solutions, just trade-offs.
Mostly for meat it is venison, fish and duck, all wild. I have not been much of a sweets guy until I moved back in with my parents. A lesson in temperance and will. Best of luck with the book. I will buy it when it's out. Thanks for the further advice.
I read a few pages and stopped at the bowel comment, not sure you can type anything more telling.
Calories are as a marketing position of modern agriculture because they can't promote nutrition of these foodstuffs. You will need to examine soil life (being killed off by modern agriculture), hair net roots (non-existent with the use of soluble chemicals fertilizers), and do brix tests for a nutrition examination.
I avoid all processed food (chitin) and limit carbs along with a few hours of autophagy every day, and my bowels are finally happy after 60 years of struggles.
Are you talking about where I said when in doubt, listen to your bowels? What does this tell you? It appears based on your comment you listened to your bowels and it helped navigate you to better health.
What specific nutrients are being examined with a brix test? Are there any specific deficiencies that have been identified that cause folks meaningful differences in their health and performance? Please understand that when I reference "whole foods" in this article, I am referring to the type of food you advocate for grown or procured sustainably a la Joel Salatin (not anything to do with carbon emissions, I assure you). I just haven't seen enough evidence to suggest that you MUST only eat whole foods to be able to enjoy good health, although I do try to recognize that there are many folks that do best on particular diets, and I am glad to hear that you have found one that works well for you.
The model you advance that focus on calories is merely a marketing position of modern agriculture doesn't map well from my perspective, at least not today. Today, brands go out of their way to advertise how few calories are in what they produce in many cases. Anyway, I would argue that someone could eat a diet with all whole foods grown sustainably and combine this with some sort of time restricted feeding, as you seem to, and still end up with a hypercaloric diet, obesity, and all of the concomitant health problems that entails while people can eat absolute garbage and dramatically improve their health as long as they maintain a deficit. This is where you come up against the problem of how to measure health. If there is some metric, or basket of metrics that captures this better than the proxies I list in this chapter I'd love to hear them.
To reassure you of my position because it might not be clear given that I'm not agreeing with you 100%, I tend to think that what you advocate for is probably a really good, if not best solution for most people, but only if you have a good calorie balance, which is not necessarily guaranteed. Would love to hear your thoughts.
Wow, I was not expecting this response. First off, I am only typing about myself, I suppose I am settled in not needing to read a lengthy article on it. I might go back now. Let me think!
Yes the bowel comment is right on, its what I have experienced - it was tough for most of my life, now its all good.
Some where along my reading the claim is a brix test is a measurement of the sugar content indicative of nutrient uptake.
The exercise of actually growing food may be as important than nutrient dense food. The point I have been considering is one can't buy good health. Have to grow it. I don't have any data to prove this, don't know of any studies that tested this theory, just based on my experience along with the attempt to understand how humans adapted to the bio-production on Earth over time. So there you go, something to test and report on.
I was offering another perspective on calories, more adding to and not necessarily refuting your points. Calories with less nutrients is a lessor grade of food.
I make fermented weeds and aerobic compost to feed the plants I grow to eat and believe its working for better health. But I don't know for sure, I could be poisoning myself of which I will drop dead tomorrow. Ha!
To pedantically and excitedly latch on to how this fits my model (I know, very LHB of me) I would say that growing your own food kind of ensures that you are expending enough energy to maintain balance. I will probably be more deliberate when I mention whole foods that are sustainably grown, and also mention how growing them yourself does provide some insurance, although I still do believe in division of labor and all that.
Regarding using compost, I be if you're feeling good it is probably working well, but like you, I don't know for sure either, but very much hope that it is both good for you and for the environment!
Growing enough vegetables and fruit requires a couple of hours of work a week after set up. Domesticated animals are more involving I'd rather go hunting & fishing. Differing designs for differing climates and geography.
Feeling good is indicative of our conversation and thanks for the hope! I have published a video series on how to make the compost. Its too long and I don't expect many will watch it all, well, until agriculture fails anyway. Ha!
Perhaps the clearest, most easy to digest (pun intended) posts on nutrition I've read. You are brave though to dip you toe into one of the most toxic topics on the internet. Welcome to the diet wars!!!
The item about alcohol sugars was interesting - not something I heard much about before, apart from one case - mannitol, a "diabetic sugar" - was thought to have some very interesting properties - it was being touted as a cure for parkinson's at one point, just out of interest, here is an article I wrote about some years ago https://www.outthinkingparkinsons.com/articles/mannitol?rq=mannitol
So, you tell me alcohol is essential and then you go and ruin it...
First piece on nutrition I ever got through, though. Needs editing.
I'm x-country skiing 3 miles a day but I've gained ten lbs of fat this winter. My mom has a sweet tooth and likes to bake brownies. Basically a variety of proteins and lots of fruit and veggies?
What do you make of Jordan Peterson eating only meat?
I never said it was essential, I just said it could be a heck of a lot of fun! To recap protein and fat are the essential macros while carbs and alcohol are not.
The fact that it is the first nutrition article you've gotten through is high praise given the crazy length! This is just a 1st draft and I've already edited some based on other feedback. It'll be an ongoing process.
x-country skiing is a great cardio workout, but why not gradually increase your mileage to burn more calories and progressively improve your fitness? Could help with the extra 10lbs. Also, if you're not doing any resistance training maybe do a couple sets of push ups, rows, and/or lunges for 10-20min every other day. Having brownies and other sweets around the house is brutal, some people can resist that type of temptation, I'm not one of those people. If it is anywhere in the house I will find it and consume it.
Lean proteins and fruits and veggies is generally a good foundation for a hypocaloric diet, but the calories are what matters. Some fruits and vegetables are lower in calorie density than others. Just look them up until you get a sense for whats what. Lean protein is key if you're trying to get into a deficit because fatty cuts often have twice as many calories per oz. Even lean protein is also calorie dense, so keep track of that. I used to like to have about a pound of meat with each of my meals, if you do the math that is a lot of calories, not conducive to getting into a big deficit.
I tried to shoehorn in my take on carnivore into the article, basically I look at it as an extreme elimination diet. JP has some sort of autoimmune issue or other food sensitivity such that carnivore is about all he can tolerated. I have another friend like that who has narcolepsy that is a lot more manageable if he sticks to a carnivore diet. It happens, but if you don't have issues like that, it probably isn't worth the effort. Also, if you're eating a carnivore diet but still having a calorie surplus it won't do you any good. Your blood work will look like shit just like if you're eating a typical American hypercaloric diet. No magic solutions, just trade-offs.
Thanks for the feedback!
Mostly for meat it is venison, fish and duck, all wild. I have not been much of a sweets guy until I moved back in with my parents. A lesson in temperance and will. Best of luck with the book. I will buy it when it's out. Thanks for the further advice.
I read a few pages and stopped at the bowel comment, not sure you can type anything more telling.
Calories are as a marketing position of modern agriculture because they can't promote nutrition of these foodstuffs. You will need to examine soil life (being killed off by modern agriculture), hair net roots (non-existent with the use of soluble chemicals fertilizers), and do brix tests for a nutrition examination.
I avoid all processed food (chitin) and limit carbs along with a few hours of autophagy every day, and my bowels are finally happy after 60 years of struggles.
Are you talking about where I said when in doubt, listen to your bowels? What does this tell you? It appears based on your comment you listened to your bowels and it helped navigate you to better health.
What specific nutrients are being examined with a brix test? Are there any specific deficiencies that have been identified that cause folks meaningful differences in their health and performance? Please understand that when I reference "whole foods" in this article, I am referring to the type of food you advocate for grown or procured sustainably a la Joel Salatin (not anything to do with carbon emissions, I assure you). I just haven't seen enough evidence to suggest that you MUST only eat whole foods to be able to enjoy good health, although I do try to recognize that there are many folks that do best on particular diets, and I am glad to hear that you have found one that works well for you.
The model you advance that focus on calories is merely a marketing position of modern agriculture doesn't map well from my perspective, at least not today. Today, brands go out of their way to advertise how few calories are in what they produce in many cases. Anyway, I would argue that someone could eat a diet with all whole foods grown sustainably and combine this with some sort of time restricted feeding, as you seem to, and still end up with a hypercaloric diet, obesity, and all of the concomitant health problems that entails while people can eat absolute garbage and dramatically improve their health as long as they maintain a deficit. This is where you come up against the problem of how to measure health. If there is some metric, or basket of metrics that captures this better than the proxies I list in this chapter I'd love to hear them.
To reassure you of my position because it might not be clear given that I'm not agreeing with you 100%, I tend to think that what you advocate for is probably a really good, if not best solution for most people, but only if you have a good calorie balance, which is not necessarily guaranteed. Would love to hear your thoughts.
Wow, I was not expecting this response. First off, I am only typing about myself, I suppose I am settled in not needing to read a lengthy article on it. I might go back now. Let me think!
Yes the bowel comment is right on, its what I have experienced - it was tough for most of my life, now its all good.
Some where along my reading the claim is a brix test is a measurement of the sugar content indicative of nutrient uptake.
The exercise of actually growing food may be as important than nutrient dense food. The point I have been considering is one can't buy good health. Have to grow it. I don't have any data to prove this, don't know of any studies that tested this theory, just based on my experience along with the attempt to understand how humans adapted to the bio-production on Earth over time. So there you go, something to test and report on.
I was offering another perspective on calories, more adding to and not necessarily refuting your points. Calories with less nutrients is a lessor grade of food.
I make fermented weeds and aerobic compost to feed the plants I grow to eat and believe its working for better health. But I don't know for sure, I could be poisoning myself of which I will drop dead tomorrow. Ha!
To pedantically and excitedly latch on to how this fits my model (I know, very LHB of me) I would say that growing your own food kind of ensures that you are expending enough energy to maintain balance. I will probably be more deliberate when I mention whole foods that are sustainably grown, and also mention how growing them yourself does provide some insurance, although I still do believe in division of labor and all that.
Regarding using compost, I be if you're feeling good it is probably working well, but like you, I don't know for sure either, but very much hope that it is both good for you and for the environment!
Growing enough vegetables and fruit requires a couple of hours of work a week after set up. Domesticated animals are more involving I'd rather go hunting & fishing. Differing designs for differing climates and geography.
Feeling good is indicative of our conversation and thanks for the hope! I have published a video series on how to make the compost. Its too long and I don't expect many will watch it all, well, until agriculture fails anyway. Ha!
Perhaps the clearest, most easy to digest (pun intended) posts on nutrition I've read. You are brave though to dip you toe into one of the most toxic topics on the internet. Welcome to the diet wars!!!
That is very reassuring, thanks for the warm welcome!
The item about alcohol sugars was interesting - not something I heard much about before, apart from one case - mannitol, a "diabetic sugar" - was thought to have some very interesting properties - it was being touted as a cure for parkinson's at one point, just out of interest, here is an article I wrote about some years ago https://www.outthinkingparkinsons.com/articles/mannitol?rq=mannitol